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The West and the Rest

The West and the Rest

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Author: Roger Scruton
Publisher: Continuum International Publishing Group Ltd.
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Rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars 8 reviews
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Media: Paperback
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Pages: 196
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ISBN: 0826470300
Dewey Decimal Number: 235
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Publication Date: June 5, 2003
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5 out of 5 stars bougainvillia on Mars?   August 28, 2007
 2 out of 2 found this review helpful

The West and the Rest is a book I have read three times and on each occasion extracted some new realisation. It is a small volume but so packed with civilisational counter-intuitiveness that it will make your head spin.

The most profound insight (that I dwell on almost daily when I listen to the news) is the link between democracy and the nation state. Scruton argues quite persuasively that to have a democracy means starting with a nation that sees itself as one. In other words, democracy is the child of nationhood and not the other way round because, in a democracy, all must agree to abide by the wish of the ruling majority. This is only possible because they trust (a key concept) that the majority have the best interests of all (not just their own) at heart.

A democracy calls for the participants to view each other as partners in a joint and quite specific project with names such as England, Ireland, France, Japan, India, Germany, The U.S, Israel and Australia.

It also demonstrates why these Western Nations have democracy and "the Rest", those places ravaged by factionalism, sectarianism and an understanding only of a greater Ummah never will. It also explains why the EU will never be a democracy and why a Balkanising multiculturalism is such pure poison to nationhood first and democracy second.

Sobering stuff when you see our foolish leadership spending our blood and treasure on "bringing democracy" to some bedevilled place on a map. They might as well be trying to grow bougainvillea on Mars.

They should have read this book!



1 out of 5 stars Sketchy, full of nonsense and frightening   November 5, 2005
 9 out of 31 found this review helpful

Roger Scruton explains very well the theoretical difference between the West (freedom, separation of Church and State) and the Rest (e.g. Islam).
But this is not the motive behind the 9/11 calamity. As one other commentator wrote here before, the real reason is the fact that the US is seen as an enemy of the Arab people. One blatant sign is its unconditional support of Israel in the Palestinian conflict.
Scruton's essay is based on abstract concepts (membership, religion, the muslims, the West, the Rest, authority). But 'religion' doesn't exist, there are only 'religions' (thousands of sects).
He sees 'loss of membership' as one of the main reasons for Western decadence. Membership (or solidarity) is not a basic need for mankind. People become member of something if there is a personel gain or plus.

Some of his ideas are very difficult to swallow.
Preposterous is his statement that 'the French Revolution should primarely be seen as a religious phenomenon'. One of the most important backers of the Enlightenment (Le Grand Orient de France) professes that 'believing in a God is a serious mental disease'.
Or, 'It is from a deficit of membership that the urge to revolution arises'. This is plain nonsense. People are revolting when they are exploited or when their individual basic needs or rights (food, land, shelter, freedom) are in danger or not respected.
Further, 'Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!' This is beautiful but bare nonsense, when we see all the draft dodgers. Powerful families keep their offspring at bay and fight with mercenaries.
Another of his obsessions is the 'devastating pornography'. Adult pornography is a terribly banal item compared with the raped, crippled, blind, radioatively infected victims (soldiers and citizens) of wars, or the child abuses by religious 'authorities'. I have never heard that someone was killed by pornography. The maxim should be: Make love, not war!
He found that one of the reasons of the 9/11 catastrophy was the fact that the perpetrators received a technical education. Would that mean that not everyone deserves one?

Roger Scruton's solution for our 'problems', and a key concept of this book is 'authority'. Whose authority? Whose religion?
Because of its instilling of authority, Roger Scruton is a great admirer of Islamic education (based on learning by heart of the Koran). Some minor (even indirect) field work would have revealed the appalling message professed (until recently?) in Islamic schools.

His big enemies are dictators and religious fanatics. He forgets to mention that the Taliban and the madrasas in Pakistan and Afghanistan were created by Western intelligence services. Those services installed or supported Greek colonels, dictatorships in Indonesia, Argentina, the Philippines, Saudi-Arabia, Iran, Iraq ... I could go on. They attacked or undermined democratically elected presidents. A recent example is president Chavez in Venezuela (see the remarkable movie 'The revolution will not be televized').
Another big part of his solution is a reinforcement of the nation-state, in other words, nationalism. But the nation-state is dominated (directly or indirectly) or overrun by transnational companies. The solution is a reinforcement of international authorities (UN, ILO, GATT, Europe ...).

Like other readers I found this book frightening, but for other reasons. I am frightened that people should have to live in Roger Scruton's nation-state with superior Islamic schools, no technical education and under his authority.



4 out of 5 stars The enemy within and without   August 28, 2005
 27 out of 31 found this review helpful

In this short but illuminating book, Scruton examines the political institutions of the West as regards the relation between religion and politics, and the threat of radical Islam. Briefly but with great clarity he explores the political history of West that gave us individual freedom, prosperity and the pursuit of knowledge. These pillars rest upon Greek thought, Roman Law and Judeo-Christianity. He points out that freedom needs to be defined and that it also needs restraints in order to continue to function. The success of the West is based on the practice of separating church and state, of recognizing the two different realms. This is the fundamental difference with Islam.

Islamism is a totalitarian ideology precisely because the totality of society must submit to religion. The author argues that the political process in Western societies is what has made it so successful - western democracies are governed by politics while the Rest are ruled by force. In the West, the political process functions through negotiation and compromise. Religion and culture are binding principles but they do prescribe. But with the collapse of these roots in much of the West, a vital defence of our culture is being lost. According to Scruton, the love of freedom alone is not enough for our civilization to survive. He considers the nation state as a precondition for democracy and the rule of law. Under Islam, the Sharia is the only source of law and there is no room for dissent.

The UN is a club of gangsters. Most UN representatives do not represent the people of their countries but only the thuggish regimes that lord it over the people. In addition, Western elites and radical Islamists both despise Western civilization. This is particularly pronounced in academia, the media and the entertainment community. This alienation manifests also in the Muslim immigrant communities in Europe that do not want to assimilate, enjoying all the benefits of their new society whilst at the same time despising it. There is a sick energy between the immigrants and the elites that despise their own heritage.

Scruton explains the modern roots of Islamic militancy by discussing Wahhabism, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Khomeini revolution in Iran. He rightly criticises the West's dangerous commitment to multiculturalism but I do not agree with his conclusions that globalisation fosters terrorism and that democracy is not suitable for "the rest." One need only look at successful democracies like Japan to see the fallacy here. Even Turkey has a somewhat flawed but functioning democracy.

But overall, and for its multiple insights, this is a most valuable and enlightening work that provides much food for thought. Scruton is an original thinker and a gifted writer. I highly recommend The West And The Rest for those who are interested in history, culture and politics.

Other recommended books that cover similar terrain include Unholy Alliance by David Horowitz, The Force Of Reason by Oriana Fallaci, Unhinged: Exposing Liberals Gone Wild by Michelle Malkin, Hoodwinked: How Intellectual Hucksters Have Hijacked American Culture by Jack Cashill, Intellectual Impostures by Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont, Anti-Americanism by Jean-Francois Revel, The Death Of Right And Wrong by Tammy Bruce, and The Anti-Chomsky Reader by Horowitz and Collier.


5 out of 5 stars first impressions mislead   March 17, 2005
 22 out of 23 found this review helpful

Roger Scruton is known for his position somewhere on the traditional right of the political spectrum. Indeed he has written a defence of conservatism. Those on the left may therefore be wary of this book. But as someone who has not in the past sympathised with Scruton's politics I can strongly recommend this book. The book's strength is its intellectual seriousness combined with its clarity of expression. Anyone who is interested in the history of ideas will find this book of interest, since it goes much deeper than the aftermath of 9/11 and addresses the enlightenment and the modern nation-state by contrast with developments in the Islamic world. It also deals with the puzzling, not to say wrongheaded, disposition of some western intellectuals to belittle the cultural heritage of the west and ignore the many benefits this has brought ordinary people the world over. For such intellectuals the west can never redeem itself for the "guilt" associated with its historical dominance over other cultural traditions.


5 out of 5 stars a voice in the wilderness   November 19, 2003
 30 out of 36 found this review helpful

This slim little volume packs more facts and well-reasoned arguments than all the Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky tomes put together. This remarkable intellect knows more about the Islamic world than all the George Galloways and Charles Kennedys in Britain. For one thing, he actually knows Arabic, and has closely studied many Islamic texts, something none of these other blowhards can claim. Brits may assume this book provides nothing but a pro-Western slant to recent events, but that's far from the case. In fact, Scruton sympathizes a great deal with militant Islamic critiques of Western-style consumerism. But he explains how their "solution" to the problem, the fundamentalist Islamification of the world, would destroy more than our right to buy what we want, but all the freedoms we hold dear. There is a wistful current throughout, as he demonstrates how the self-loathing and self-flagellation of so many Westerners are symptoms of our culture's almost-inevitable decline. Whether it can revive its past vigor, or what might take its place, is difficult to fathom at this stage. But one thing is for sure: if you believe that Islamism would be an improvement, you're deluding yourself.